Jesus Christ vs. Allah   Which God do you believe in?

Next to DavelInDorset Voted for Allah (3 hours 52 minutes ago)

I like when u add by definition.I add there is no contradictions in Torah by definition in Judaism.From the beginning,I was giving u many examples and your answers are this is Torah and bad translations.I think u have no idea about Quran.However,I know the Quran and I am reading the Torah and have some information about it.I am giving u examples with simple and logic reasoning and I ask,unfortunately I found the most of the time,limited answers.Praise to God for the Grace of Islam

DaveInDorset Observer (5 hours 9 minutes ago)

There are no contradictions in the Torah by definition. If you think you have found one then you are not seeing it properly. Give me an example and I will try to explain it. Also, please specify any part that you claim has been changed. Where do you guys get your information from??

Next to DavelInDorset Voted for Allah (5 hours 44 minutes ago)

I think your argument to defend your position is:If you don\\\'t like what G-D has said, take it up with HIM and The Torah simply IS.You are not able to defend the Torah.You are not the problem but the problem is in the Torah changed by men.You have to know that there is no contradictions in the religion of God and in the true holy books of God.Praise to God for the Grace of Islam religion of Abraham, Moses and Mohamed.

Observer Observer (6 hours 29 minutes ago)

Well, I didn\'t say \"the way to define a prophet\" is explicitly written in Torah, and I didn\'t say I have strong knowledge of Torah. But the contradiction I mentionned exists in your own previous comments. And as you are jewish(I suppose), I think that you exctracted the prophet\'s definition from Torah, so the contradiction exists in your altered Torah!

DaveInDorset Observer (13 hours 1 minute ago)

I fear the subtleties are beyond you. The Torah does not say - this one or that one is a prophet. You can define the word however you want. As I pointed out before, you don\'t have the knowledge or insight to introduce your own opinions. The Torah simply IS. All people are imperfect, even prophets - whatever that may be. If you don\'t like what G-D has said, take it up with HIM. You will anyway, one day...

Observer Observer (13 hours 47 minutes ago)

I read the conversation from its beginning and I agree with Next about the contradiction which exists in Torah .The contradiction occurs on how the Torah defines a Prophet. In fact, how can we believe that Prophets can make these big mistakes. I think that the humain brain cannot believe that persons who are chosen by God, to show people the right path, could make these evil sins. There is no logic in this !

Observer Observer (23 hours 51 seconds ago)

In fact, how can we believe that Prophets can make these big mistakes. I think that the humain brain cannot believe that persons who are chosen by God, to show people the right path, could make these evil sins. There is no logic in this !

Next to DavelInDorset Voted for Allah (1 day 1 hour ago)

I think Judaism is contradicting itself concerning prophets (Accordoing to Torah,God communicated with Noah and Bilaam and Both were wise men in a period of time and made evil sins, but one is considered as prophet and the other no)It seems Rabbis,and not God, choose who is a prophet and who is not.

DaveInDorset Observer (1 day 3 hours ago)

Well, it depends on how you define prophet. Judaism does not describe Adam, Eve or Noah as prophets. I don\\\'t think it matters very much. Noah is an interesting case - he is described as a righteous man in his generation. This could mean that in a different generation he would not have been so highly regarded. It\\\'s open to opinion.

LOVE ISLAM Voted for Allah (1 day 4 hours ago)

Islam is the best relagion ever, feel sorry for those blind people how\'s not believing in Islam, may god show them the right way. LOVE ISLAM LOVE ALLAH LOVE MOHAMED. :)

Next to DavelInDorset Voted for Allah (1 day 9 hours ago)

Personally,Quran is enough for me.But as you want names I give you (Ibn Hazm,Ahmed Deedat)...I read before Numbers 22 that what you have in your books.Definition of prophets differs between Judaism and Islam.But you didnt respond me Adam, Eve and Noah are prophets or not and why??

DaveInDorset Observer (1 day 10 hours ago)

The gift of prophecy is sometimes given once to an individual, for a particular purpose and never again. A prophet is someone who has that gift as a feature of his (her) life. Richard Elliott and that style of biblical criticism has been totally discredited. Any orthodox rabbi can tear it to shreds. For more on Balaam see Numbers 22: 2-8. Shalom.

Next to DavelInDorset Voted for Allah (1 day 10 hours ago)

Of course,the first witness is God.In the Quran,there is many verses says that.I show u also some contradictions in the Torah with the reality of God(u can reject them,u are free).Here is one of the person who focused on the origin of the altered Torah:Richard Elliot Friedman.Balaam spoke with God That what u have,but we havent this.Accordoing to your definition, If God spoke directly to a person so that person is a prophet.Then, Adam, Eve and Noah are prophets?

DaveInDorset Observer (1 day 17 hours ago)

to NEXT. Pl tell me how the Torah has been altered. Names, evidence. By the way, G-D spoke directly to Bilaam, which is the definition of prophecy.

Next to DavelInDorset Observer (2 days 6 hours ago)

I said some parts of the Torah are altered and not the whole Torah because there is some similarities with Quran,so if we suppose there is coded information it may be possible.Concerning Balaam,his story is mentioned in the Quran 7:175,he wasnt a prophet but only a wise man and then made a big sin.If u dont know prophet Mohamed dont talk about him.Quran has not only coded information but scientific miracle and also a numerical dimension.

123 Voted for Allah (2 days 8 hours ago)

allah is the only god and there is nothing called jesus christ read more about islam read the koran it will benefits u in the life and after it ..this life wont stay for ever so choose what benefit u in Afterlife >>be a muslim!!

DaveInDorset Observer (2 days 8 hours ago)

I promise you that the Torah was never altered. A prophet is a man (or a woman) with whom G-d has communicated. Even Bilaam, a truly evil man, was a prophet once in his life. Your own prophet was just a human being. Not perfect, not an angel, not a saint, not free of weakness or sin. The mark of a good person is to recognise and try to deal with personal failings. But I repeat, whoever tells you that the Torah was altered is/was a liar or a fool. There is \'coded\' information which proves i

Next to DavelInDorset Voted for Allah (2 days 9 hours ago)

No, I understand more that Torah was altered by the enemy of God.Prophets are human like us CHOSEN by God to be His messengers.Prophets are the best men on the earth and the best persons to GOD.Their mission is to transmit the message of God and to be a GOOD EXAMPLE for people.Even if they did a mistake, they never did an evil sins like what is mentioned in the Torah (adultery and belief in other Gods 1 kings 11 Salomon).Never.

Mervat Voted for Allah (2 days 9 hours ago)

All prophets are the Lord messengers to achieve their mission which is to worship God by publishing his law of justice, to prevent people from violating each others...and no one dare to say he\\\'s God and asks his nation to worship him coz they know God will punish them

DaveInDorset Observer (2 days 14 hours ago)

Now you understand why the Torah has to be accepted as G-D\'s absolute truth. All the characters are depicted with brutal honesty, with all their human failings. I emphasise what I said before - that your own personal judgement is worthess because you only have access to translations which in turn do not go below the surface - and of course translators have their own agenda! The book I recommended will help to an extent. By the way, I\'m not sure if you know exactly what a prophet is. Sha